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Idea: Web-based networks applied to petitions

Mon Dec 25, 2006 1:59 AM EST
world-news, politics, republican, help, democracy, reality, idea, accountability, injustice, web-app, collective-intelligence, democratic-process, grenalow-wilson, information-propagation
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Thinking about what may create a sufficient impetus that would actually result in addressing injustices (such as one involving Grenalow Wilson) and the answer is clear: increasing accountability for politicians.

Regarding Grenalow:

So question 1: who is responsible for amending this decision?

I have no idea. Could someone please research this?

Question2: How can credible accountability be created?

Here I think I might have something to say on the subject. I can create a social networking site that would be based around creating a credibility value for different individuals and would enable people to act.

Step 1: Credibility:

Let's say every individual in the system has a credibility between 0 and 100.

1) Each individual starts with credibility of 0
2) Each individual can endorse other individuals
3) The credibility of each individuals is a function of the credibility of those around him/her
4) If an individual is found to have been falsified, this significantly degrades credibility of all members who endorsed this individual.

Step 2: Action

The next step is let people express their positions on different subjects with a clear path to action in case the demand is not met (voting a person out of office, etc.) So we create a site where we all sign a petition with every signature being more than just a name (credibility). Then this petition is presented to people at different levels and the members of the petition are notified of the outcome. Depending on the outcome the populace takes different actions.

What this might be able to attain is creation of responsibility and a sort of dynamic voting that would enable people to express their ideas in a way that would have a significant impact.

This is actually a subset of another application that I have in mind, but I feel it might be easy to implement and directly applicable to situations such as one with Grenalow. It would also significantly improve the political process.

Please let me know what you think.

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NikitaB

I feel like another idea of mine didn't get due exposure. Please feel free to check it out a>.

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Reply#1 - Mon Dec 25, 2006 2:08 AM EST
NikitaB

Ooops. Here is the proper link.

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#1.1 - Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:08 AM EST
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vas

Interesting idea, Nikita. You're talking about creating a social trust network. You might also want to check out Trust Models for Community-Aware Identity Management.

I happen to be familiar with this topic because I also have a project that is undergoing conceptual development... it may or may not have overlap with the larger application you allude to above. Mine isn't about getting people to take action, but it is about transparency and accountability, mainly of public figures, but also for the community of users that my project would create.

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Reply#2 - Mon Dec 25, 2006 1:30 PM EST
NikitaB

Interesting. Can you tell me more?

  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:12 PM EST
NikitaB

BTW, I mean can you tell me more about what you are looking to do?

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#2.2 - Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:09 AM EST
vas

We'll have to have an email conversation. In the meanwhile, you can also check out the beta launch of a site created by some friends of mine: TrenchMice. They have the concept of "cred" rating -- though their site is aimed at providing job hunters more information about potential employers and bosses.

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#2.3 - Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:57 AM EST
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spiffie

It's intriguing enough to clip, anyway. Thanks.

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Reply#3 - Mon Dec 25, 2006 2:43 PM EST
Haily

Your idea has considerable merit. Without a doubt we need to have platforms in place that give the populace a practical lever that enables/enforces accountabilty.

How are you intending to take this to the next step?

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Reply#4 - Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:10 PM EST
NikitaB

Next step... well, I am overloaded with different projects, but I think I could set aside some time to put together a prototype. The company I work for has a perfect platform for this... funding would make this endeavor much easier to implement (hint hint, nudge nugde).

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#4.1 - Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:03 AM EST
Haily

Get in touch with me by email (rsbashir@yahoo.com). I am interested in taking this further.

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#4.2 - Tue Jan 9, 2007 3:41 AM EST
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rhodezone

It's an interesting proposition, but I'm only seeing it in terms of the consequences of such a system if it were to be implemented and widely used.

As I understand it, something like this would create a credibility index that would function in society much like a credit score.

If an individual is found to have been falsified, this significantly degrades credibility of all members who endorsed this individual.

Who would find that an individual or an action is falsified? It would need external verification and a trusted reporting authority, wouldn't it? Like a credit bureau. Then, what would be the arbitration method between an end user and the external credibility verifier? Then, who has ownership over that credibility index information? If none of this is thought through adequately, privacy rights issues abound.

    Reply#6 - Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:31 PM EST
    NikitaB

    There are several solutions here with the best being complete transparency: all audits are verifiable and there is a trail of everything. Since it would be an invite-only system, the main fear will be that people will create multiple accounts and loss of credibility within the system should serve as sufficient incentive to dissuade people from abusing the system.

      #6.1 - Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:07 AM EST
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      Henry VII

      I wrote about something similar to this, but applying it directly to the voting system [and accounting for other things such as education - not just trust, and plenty of people trust Jerry Falwell]. Personally, I think this is a good idea - though you will have to be careful that it does not become a popularity contest like Digg or it would lose credibility in real world applications. Still, there should be a good way to use the internet to propose solutions for real-world problems.

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      Reply#7 - Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:27 AM EST
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